Friday, October 8, 2010

Gregg Mchatton Part 3

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Below I want you to compare the swings, Our components are relatively the same yet we look different.






Hit em Straight

14 comments:

  1. your swing is longer, could be the club you are hitting. You look like you are "trying" to float load and not set the wrists. His, as always, looks like it just happens.

    His head always stays behind the ball, yours looks to be over it or in front. That could be camera angle though.

    2 good swings
    Joe

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  2. Hi Joe,
    My Pivot is more centered, he floats a little also. His center's work is much better than mine. That's what makes him who he is.
    Thanks,
    Ralph

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  3. No offense to you my brother, but I could watch Mr. Hat swing the club all day long. This time around, I feel I am learning a lot from his left knee action. Very similar to yours and YODA's...

    Kevin

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  4. Hi Kevin,
    Gregg's good, I have a ways to go before I can be mentioned in the same breath as those two icons.
    Thanks for the comments
    Ralph

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  5. Hello, just wanted to make a few observations about both of your strokes. I say strokes because there are three basic types of golf actions; hitting, throwing and swinging. The Hat is executing a throwing action with a thrust through impact making it a throw-hit-hit acion. The basic throwing action is a shift-turn to the top and a shift-turn from the top into the follow-through. We can see The Hat bump laterally with his weight shift to trigger the action and drive laterally from the transition during the storing portion of the downstroke into delivery. During delivery it looks like there is thrust added in being evident in the delayed forward lean angle of the shaft after impact and the relatively late in-line attitude of his extension. cont'd

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  6. Back for a little more. As I watch your general action I see a more rotary start-up and backstroke with a more lateral drive during the store and delivery portions of the stroke. Then during your exit you return to more of a rotary action. That makes your stroke more of a swing-throw action because swingers are more pure rotators and throws are shift-turners. So I would describe your basic action in terms of turning to the top, then shift-turn down and through. cont'd

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  7. When I consider the lengthes of your strokes it is often the case that golfers that have some hit in the delivery action have shorter back strokes as swinging backstrokes are longer. The golfer who uses hit only need to go as far back as the muscle contraction takes. Once the muscles are loaded for the hit there is enough arc for the action. The swinger needs more arc, because more time is needed to get the energy to the clubhead and more time is needed for the clubhead to gather speed.

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  8. As far as when the wrist hinge is concerned. That relates to what I call your Arc Management Feature. The Hat uses wha I call a Deep-Deep option. His takeaway is more inside than yours and the widest part of his stroke is when the left arm is parallel to the ground. Even though his body slides forward during the downstroke he maintains good width in the transition. Golfers that perfrom this option, like a Ben Hogan will set the club somewhere close to a 90 degree angle when the left arm is parallel to the ground going back. cont'd

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  9. You use a wide-narrow Arc Management option, much like Jack Nicklaus has throughout his career. That is a wide, extended takeaway, with a delay set, that happens much more toward the top of the stroke. Then during the downstroke the arms pull into the body, closer to the body, allowing for more speed to acquire. I would simply note that it looks like you lose a little angle coming down, and it looks like your left hand grip alignment is a little weak for your biomechanics. With a little stronger left hand alignment and a neutral right hand alignment you would be able to hold the angle longer and deliver the clubface squarely as well.

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  10. Further observations are that The Hat creates the secondary tilt needed in his posturing during the forward stroke, as do many throwers. You also create the extent of your secondary tilt during the lateral part of the shift-turn action. However your head also moves significantly laterally and his has more of a stationary attitude (it does bobb as many hitters do, yet it has less side-to-side motion. This influence a lot of the delivery attitudes and alignments.

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  11. In general, the more of a swinger you are the more you want to get your spine angles, both primary and secondary, set-up at address and maintained during the stroke. This is from a biomechanical viewpoint. Many golfing machine instructors talk about swing mechanics without considering body mechanics. In my view, it is the body's machinery that needs to execute the swing mechanics and thus dictates what options are available to the particular golfer as far as swing mechanics are concerned. Anyway, I find swingers perform better when establishing the tilt angles at address and maintaining them durng the stroke.

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  12. It also occurs to me that The Hat appears to be a center anchor thrower and the center anchor option seems to suit him well. Your body mechanic tendencies seem to be front anchor and you acion floats between center and front anchor aligments. It also appears that The Hat has what I call a side-under Swing Path alignment (that is the alingment of the right forearm - during delivery for example) and yours is more side-on. Do to those attributes he can stay down in his posture a little longer through the ball then you before he completes his post and releases his posture up to the finish. You look like you need to post-up a little sooner, making room for more of a true extension through the ball. You look like you own a standard Post-Up postural release option an need to allow your torso to release its postural angles a little sooner. Much like Annika Sorenstam and David Duval.

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  13. My last observation is that it looks like the Hat is more of a center linkage golfer, with his hands more out infront of the ball and aligned in front of his stomach at impact fix. Your linkage looks rear linkage, linked up to your right side coming down, and then catches up to center linkage through impact fix. Shows me something is off. Either you are better off staying rear linkage and having the whole right side move through as a unit (your right hip and leg slow down through impact fix) or you need to get center linked sooner and then delivery the whole stroke in a center linked manner. Then everything would be working together. Just my thoughts based on what I am seeing. Keep in mind all observations are based on what I am seeing. To truly know the biomechanical options a golfer owns, I need to test each golfer. Signing out, EA Tischler

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  14. Thanks for the insight EA,
    We look forward to more participation from you.
    Ralph

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